{"id":130799,"date":"2021-09-01T14:54:55","date_gmt":"2021-09-01T18:54:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.constructionspecifier.com\/?p=130799"},"modified":"2021-10-06T15:00:54","modified_gmt":"2021-10-06T19:00:54","slug":"breaking-boundaries-an-interview-with-national-conference-keynote-speaker-curtis-moody","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.constructionspecifier.com\/breaking-boundaries-an-interview-with-national-conference-keynote-speaker-curtis-moody\/","title":{"rendered":"Breaking boundaries: An interview with national conference keynote speaker Curtis Moody"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_130800\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-130800\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.constructionspecifier.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Moody_Headshot-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-130800 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.constructionspecifier.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Moody_Headshot-1-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.constructionspecifier.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Moody_Headshot-1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.constructionspecifier.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Moody_Headshot-1-500x334.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.constructionspecifier.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Moody_Headshot-1-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.constructionspecifier.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Moody_Headshot-1.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-130800\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Curtis Moody<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Curtis Moody, the founder of Moody Nolan, the largest African American-owned architecture firm in the U.S., will be presenting the keynote speech, \u201cPerspective on Design, Firm Ownership, and Breaking Boundaries in the AECO (Architecture, Engineering, Construction, and Owner) Industry\u201d at the CSI National Conference in Nashville, Tennessee, on September 23, 2021. CSI sat down with him to hear about his unique journey, and what he sees as our industry\u2019s challenges and opportunities.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re celebrating almost 50 years as an award-winning architectural designer, and 40 years as the founder of a top-level firm with a focus on diversity. What are some of the highlights of your journey?<\/p>\n<p>The Schottenstein Center project at The Ohio State University was a breakthrough project for the firm and for me personally. It is a significant milestone in the history of our company and there are several reasons why. One, it is currently one of the largest arenas in the big 10. The other is, I could never have imagined when I was a student at Ohio State and on the varsity basketball team, that one day I would be in the position to compete, interview, and be selected for a new arena at my university.<\/p>\n<p>What helped us so much was this wasn\u2019t against other minority firms. This was against the cream of the crop firms, and we were awarded the project. This institution gave me an education, then turned around and said, \u201cThe education we gave you is so good that we\u2019re going to hire you,\u201d and I think that\u2019s great confidence.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s it like to go back to the university?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re doing many projects at the university today and continue to have teams working on different aspects. We don\u2019t win every project we pursue at Ohio State, but we\u2019ve completed some of the largest projects they\u2019ve ever done.<\/p>\n<p>We are in a different category now than when I started as a minority firm, when it was hard to even get an interview, and then normally to be in partnership with somebody else that I would be working under. This helped put us in the lead as we are today.<\/p>\n<p>In regard to diversity, when you look around this industry, where are the key places where you still see work to do?<\/p>\n<p>The truth is all over. Two years ago was the 50th anniversary of the Whitney Young speech (to the AIA).<sup>1<\/sup> (Moody is a Whitney Young recipient award winner). At that time only two percent of the registered architects in the nation were African American. Today, it\u2019s still not three percent. There are a number of graduate architects of some minority group who have not proceeded to take their exam to become licensed. Our firm really encourages our staff to get registered, to be counted in that number.<\/p>\n<p>There are 60 firms in the nation that represent 85 percent of the gross revenues in the architectural practice. So, it\u2019s a very powerful group because of the economy. All of them have diversity initiatives they\u2019re promoting hard, and we take their percentage. The higher percentages are seven-to-eight percent in their firms. By percentage, we are the most diverse firm in the nation, as 30 percent of our staff is diverse.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking to your keynote address at the CSI National Conference, why is \u201cBreaking Boundaries\u201d such an important topic for this industry?<\/p>\n<p>Everyone in our profession designs buildings to hopefully break some boundaries, doing something eye-catching and different than the next architect. However, breaking boundaries is not just about buildings, it\u2019s about people. It\u2019s about perception. I\u2019m a proponent of seeing people of all kinds of ethnic groups in this profession. For the African American community, I used to think it would be such a good thing to see someone who looked like them that succeeds. It would be an example somebody could emulate. What I didn\u2019t consider is it wasn\u2019t just for my community. It\u2019s for all communities.<\/p>\n<p>When I walk into an interview, if that group has not seen a firm like mine achieve the things they need achieved, they\u2019re not necessarily gung-ho to take that risk. They don\u2019t see that we can do a great job on this project that is so special to them, because it\u2019s just not something they are used to. So, breaking boundaries has to do with exposure. Exposing women, exposing people of color, exposing everyone to the talent in people you can\u2019t see by looking at them on the outside.<\/p>\n<p>To your point about firms that are adopting a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiative, what are the strategies that have worked for your firm?<\/p>\n<p>Equity, diversity, and inclusion has to do with trying to move forward from when there was a federally funded project and most firms would say, \u201cOh, we need a mixture of people\u201d because the public is paying tax dollars to fund this. On the private sector side, that was not the case. The developers were going to the bank to borrow money. Why do they need to worry about diversity? That started to change as businesses realized their service may be in diverse communities and wanted to have a diverse team to speak to that community.<\/p>\n<p>Going back to the public sector, the federal government normally set some percentages for disadvantaged business enterprise participation, and I have a problem with that term. They had some terms of what you need to do to qualify to be a minority-owned business, and I have some problems with that, too. Under diversity and inclusion, it should be at all levels. It shouldn\u2019t be at the bottom. If you are a large business, you can\u2019t be certified as minority, and we\u2019ve passed that. I kind of joke, \u201cSo the color of my skin changed when I got a little bit more money.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Looking ahead, what are the key challenges and opportunities you see in this industry?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re very fortunate. We\u2019ve gotten a lot of exposure. That is a positive to other firms and their communities that have a similar makeup to us, because all of a sudden, we\u2019re being recognized as a peer. That is absolutely a positive for us, and for anybody that would get recognized that way.<\/p>\n<p>The challenge is consistency. We don\u2019t have a nation that is closely all together. That shows up when we go to different cities where there is fear of selecting a firm like us. We can\u2019t be just as good as the competitor. We have to be so much better because the committee that hired us has to justify, we were just better than everybody else. I would like to see us arrive at a point where the consideration of all of us has nothing to do with what we look like but has everything to do with our resume. 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